Yeah, I think dances/berserks/battle cries should be the combat-related buffs whereas meditations should be survival, forging, etc buffs.

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[21:34] Your mind hears Mujaki thinking, "You are never too young for liquor."
[21:34] Your mind hears Kalnean thinking, "You don't have any kids, do you."
[21:35] Your mind hears Mujaki thinking, "I hope not."

Blood Staunch-like meditation would be awesome.

Question for Aurdun. How do you envision the function of meditations? I always thought it'd be something done out of combat, that takes a decent amount of time to get going.

With that said, I believe the duration should approach the cap since it'd take awhile to activate one. Also, do you envision us being able to activate only one meditation at a time? I personally think we should only be able to have one going at a time, that way our decision on which to use will be crucial. Also, I think it'd could potentially be OP to have a lot of meditations going at once (unless there are restrictions made).

I'd like to see some combat-related meditations to be quite honest. For a guild that currently has nothing but combat, we are certainly lacking a lot in terms of niche abilities. We should be fearless in combat. I'd like to see a meditation that helps defend against fear attacks.

Also, maybe a meditation that makes the Barbarian more in tune with his weapon for a weapon stat bonus similar to what Paladins have (we really should have this too).

Do you plan on having certain meditations work in conjunction with some of our berserks or dances? Meditation A only working if the Barb is berserking Blood, etc...?

Meditation that eliminates the called shot penalty.

What are the GMs thoughts on a meditation that slightly increases weapon learning while in combat? I know Zeyurn said he's not going to give Paladins an ability that increases their engagement limit, so I'm not sure if this falls into the same category.

I want a perception related meditation as well. How some kind of 'Barbarian Sense' that allows us to tell when we are being engaged, aimed at, or targeted? Similar to Paladin 'spidey sense' for stealing but instead for noticing someone initiating combat even if they're hiding.

Meditation that allows us to reduce aim time to reach full aim (with appropriate ranks as well). So, maybe only a Barb with 500 in crossbow/bow can reduce full aim time from 12 seconds to 9.

Meditation that reduces the effects of poison (which might be more deadly in new combat).

Just randomly throwing out ideas, whether they're good or bad. I'll try to keep them coming.

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>A meditation that keeps us solid or above balance

It would probably have to pulse periodically, so you would still drop below solidly until it pulsed if you were doing something silly to your balance. But I like this idea.

>A meditation to allow min RT on your weapon

After the fatigue changes hit prime, I'm doubtful of the usefulness of this. Unless you rediculously overtrain stamina compared to your Strength/Agility, this will just make you tired faster.

>A meditation to allow instant missile to melee

This is almost guaranteed never to happen.

The rest of them sound pretty cool, but your suggestions all seem to be combat based. One of the goals is to get Barbarians some none combat abilities.

So, some non-combat suggestions:

- Bonus to climbing/swimming
- Bonus to foraging/perception
- Bonus to Mech replacement skills
- Bonus to teaching/scholarship


Elemental Lord Opieus, Expert Warrior Mage of Elanthia

>>After the fatigue changes hit prime, I'm doubtful of the usefulness of this. Unless you rediculously overtrain stamina compared to your Strength/Agility, this will just make you tired faster.

Yeah you're probably right on this.

>>The rest of them sound pretty cool, but your suggestions all seem to be combat based. One of the goals is to get Barbarians some none combat abilities.

Yeah pretty much :)

these would be cool
- Stealing meditation
- Disarm & locks meditation

...I mean really you could take any skill <skill> meditation, I like the more unique stuff though like the faster aim and blood staunch.

- A meditation that reduces the RT on the HUNT verb and lets us HUNT more rooms away.

I am surprised mages haven't gotten a "walk on water" spell or something, a meditation could be run across water and if you stayed in a room too long you would sink.....however you could get stuck somewhere and that wouldn't be fun....plus I am not a fan of abilities that circumvent ranks.


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how about a meditation to bare the pain of self coderizing of bleeders. with either a fire and weapon or black powder on the bleeder and something to light it with, or maybe a small one use flare like item that you use as you meditate. have it stop/lessen the bleeder at the expense of IF but keeping the wound.


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blackpowder has been used to cauterize wounds in emergency situations for a long time, in open spaces it burns a little faster than gas.




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Aranathem squints at the balance beam needle and says, "There's some stuff in here. All told, the haversack weighs about three thousand, fifty-eight stones," and puts the haversack on the counter.

<<-Sensing if an item is magical or not.>>

My opinion is that I'd hope this would be added to something like SMELL. You smell an item and can sense if there is a certain lingering of magic about the item.

<<-Sensing if there are any spells active on you or not.>>

Why would you want this?

<<-Sensing if there are any spells active on someone else or not.>>

Why would you want this?

<<-Sensing if someone else is a magic user or not.>>

Describe <character>. We have this.

<<-Sensing if there is "a little" or "lots" of mana in a room.>>

Why would you want this?

- Simon

A lot of your suggestions can be broken to one thing. They are used by a magic skill directly to determine a lot of what you want to do.

<<I thought this only told you if they had Inner Fire or not. Also, does it work on critters?>>

It doesn't work on creatures.

- Simon

>>smelling and licking

Sounds like a good lore to train on the pretty ones.


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A few years ago when they allowed the destruction of magic items, I was testing all sorts of things and one of those things involved licking and smelling magic items. Tastes like peanut butter?

To say that we can smell them from afar is a bit different then if we are holding the magical item in our hand. However,

<<If someone is carrying a rune or other magic items on them, we should be able to smell them in hiding?>>

So something like revelation, but only revealing those with magic items on them. ;)

Heightened senses to as a perception booster or more importantly, defense against all types of stealth attacks makes more sense as a meditation.

Another form of heightened senses could be a meditation that allows us to see a TM spell or aimed shot focused on the Barbarian whether they are out in the open and/or hiding/invisibility.

- Simon

>So we should be able to smell critters/pc's that are invisible?

No, but if you can lick them you'll be able to taste the magic. :P

>>For the record, there is already lore in place to support both smelling and licking to determine magicalness

The raw stuff of magic is, to the five conventional senses, intangible and undetectable. Instead, mages rely on a psychic sense to detect magic, which can be translated by the brain in any number of ways. Traditionally, mages learn to "see" mana, but Bard guildleaders for awhile taught people to "hear" it, and some Moon Mages learn techniques to "touch" it.

Smelling magic isn't, then, anything unusual. The hilariously dire downside is that any ability to detect magic at all indicates at least the tiny budding of Attunement. A sophisticated ability to detect magic means the person is growing more and more attuned to mana. Barbarians, more than anyone else, need to be mindful about staring into the Abyss a little too long.

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>>But if it smells as bad as a skunk to a barbarian, how much attunment is required?

Not a functional amount, clearly, but some. Someone who truly has no mental or physiological knack for it would be exactly like someone in real life trying to do magic or sense patterns -- it simply wouldn't exist in their perceptions.

Please keep in mind, however, this is not the same thing as "it won't ever fly, don't do it," it is saying "this may be an interesting avenue of fiction and internal conflict to explore for a guild that wants more fiction."

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<Kvlt> Step 1: Want stuff! Step 2: Be ambitious! Step 3: Believe in the ability of your fellow man to carry you to heights you are too incompetent to reach alone.

We do play a fantasy role-playing game, so we are going for fiction at times.*

- Simon

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>>Bad analogy: I don't need to smell the mine gas, I just need my parakeet to react to it.

That's not mine gas...

But on a serious note, I agree with this analogy and your line of thinking here. Our BMR/Inner Fire should react in some way when we're around magic users/being cast upon. Over time, I would think an attunement to this "disturbance in the force" if you will would give us a bit of insight as to tell what kind/how many MU's are nearby, and what kinda of magical mumbojumbo is floating around in the air.


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Caraamon loudly asks, "Ya still got tasks fer us ta do, Les?"
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The Barbarian Guildleader Les says, "Kill. Don't care what. Make dead."

From what I understand of the new combat stuff, it will be more difficult to stay in combat for long periods due to fatigue - I take it berserks will have a built-in fatigue component to keep us from collapsing even if the current one is nerfed, but for the times we're Dancing (Well, Forming... ha) or unbuffed situations a fatigue-restoring meditation would be nice.

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[21:34] Your mind hears Mujaki thinking, "You are never too young for liquor."
[21:34] Your mind hears Kalnean thinking, "You don't have any kids, do you."
[21:35] Your mind hears Mujaki thinking, "I hope not."

How about a meditation that lets us "remember" what we learned about combat before you died.

Translation: we keep the exp in our combat oriented skill pools as long as the meditation was in use at the time of death.


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Aranathem squints at the balance beam needle and says, "There's some stuff in here. All told, the haversack weighs about three thousand, fifty-eight stones," and puts the haversack on the counter.